The Paul Leslie Hour Episode #40 – Jerome Garfunkel

Jerome Garfunkel (also known as Jerry) is someone who knows that life is a learning experience. Called Dr. COBOL by some, for his contributions to COBOL (Common Business Oriented Language) a computer programming language. Jerome Garfunkel lives a full life with many interests: a technologist, writer, educator, calligrapher, lecturer and motorcyclist, he has traveled around the globe. It was very nice of Garfunkel to share the insights and lessons he has learned from his experiences with us. Tune in and dig the Jerome vibe.

Win a copy of “New Worlds,” the new CD by Bill Murray, Jan Vogler and Friends

Listening to New Worlds, the debut album by Bill Murray, Jan Vogler and Friends has been an invigorating experience for me, it’s beautiful to hear the marriage of literature and melodies. Many people know American actor and comedian Bill Murray for his diverse film appearances, but lately he’s been honing another talent: reciting great excerpts of American literature and a little singing too.  Alongside German cellist Jan Vogler, Venezuelan pianist Vanessa Perez and Chinese violinist Mira Wang, Bill Murray has been appearing internationally in concerts singing classic American songs from Stephen Foster to Stephen Sondheim and reading prose and poetry from the great American authors.

This week on The Paul Leslie Hour podcast, we’re presenting two of the great musicians from New Worlds. Listen for a chance to win a free copy of the album!

On the show for Monday, November 13th we present an interview with cellist Jan Vogler.  Following that, on the show for Wednesday, November 15th we present an interview with Vanessa Perez.  You can stream the show from or get a free subscription on iTunes, Stitcher Radio, Google Play or Acast.

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The Paul Leslie Hour Episode #15 – Melora Hardin

Melora Hardin is an actor, singer and director known to many for playing the character “Jan Levinson” on the hit sitcom “The Office,” but her artistic experience is expansive! She’s graced the television and film screen as well as the stage. Acting, dancing and directing are just a few of her talents. Then, there’s her musical side. A singer-songwriter, she’s a concert performer and a recording artist  with 3 albums to her credit. It’s an interview with depth yet not an ounce of pretension. Listen and find out why Melora Hardin is beloved by so many audiences.

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The Paul Leslie Hour Episode #12 – Bruce Cockburn

Bruce Cockburn is a prolific singer-songwriter with more than 300 songs in his catalog.  A Canadian recording artist, this interview (among many topics) is discussing his 33rd studio album “Bone on Bone.”  Bruce Cockburn’s songs have been covered by a diverse number of artists: Barenaked Ladies, Ani DiFranco, k.d. lang, Jimmy Buffett, the Jerry Garcia Band, Dan Fogelberg and many others.

Cockburn has written many beautiful songs. The first song I heard of his was “Pacing the Cage.”  He’s long been someone I wanted to have on the show and now he’s kind enough to join us!

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The Paul Leslie Hour Episode #1 – Willie Nelson

A postcard I wrote ended up in Willie Nelson’s hands.  He responded warmly.

For episode #1 of The Paul Leslie Hour, I want to invite you on Willie Nelson’s tour bus for an honest and light-hearted conversation with the man himself.

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Bryan Bishop: Broadcast Personality

BRYAN BISHOP is sometimes known as “Bald Bryan.”  He worked with broadcast personality and comedian Adam Carolla on the show Loveline as a call screener.  His relationship with Adam Carolla continues to this day, as a contributing cast member on The Adam Carolla Show podcast.

We love “behind-the-scenes” looks and Bryan certainly has a lot of perspective. He joins us to talk about his storied career and gain his thoughts on the growing new media of podcasting.

What do you think about the unusual phone call that Bryan screened from Loveline?

Do you listen to podcasts?

Ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome our special guest, Bryan Bishop. Thank you so much for making the time to join us.

It’s my pleasure.

A lot of people know you from Adam Carolla’s show but who is the real Bryan Bishop?

(Laughs) Do a lot of people know me? I don’t feel like that’s true. The real Bryan Bishop he’s a dark and troubled, troubled, deeply troubled soul. No, that’s not true at all. I like to think that I’m the same, mostly the same as I am on the air as I am off. People ask me, you know, my friends or whoever, ask me, uh, you know, what’s Adam like off the air? They all know I work for Adam Carolla and one thing I’ve always admired about Adam is that you tell people he’s the same guy he is off the air, minus about 20% because I think when you’re on in front of a microphone you have to perform to some extent, obviously, because you’re performing. But Adam’s not putting on a persona and he’s not pretending to be someone he’s not or all those things. He’s, uh, the same guy and what you see is what you get. And I’ve always admired that and I try to do that same thing for myself.

How did you meet Adam in the first place?

I think the first time I met him was when I started on Loveline. I was a phone screener which, in the radio world, is the bottom of the barrel. I was a phone screener for a local L.A. station called “K-Rock” (K-ROQ) and did that for a year. And after a year, they asked me to be the phone screener for Loveline, which was a huge pay raise at the time, from like $6.00 an hour to like $12.00 an hour so, of course, I jumped all over it. I think that’s when I met Adam, when the producer brought me around and introduced me to everyone on the show, which was about four people, and then I met Adam and that was the beginning of a long love affair.

Now, when you think back to the days of Loveline, can you remember a call that, to you, is the most memorable call that you ever screened?

I got so many calls. There were just so many variations of the same thing. I don’t want to trivialize them because, obviously, if you’re calling in to a national radio show as a teenager or whatever, it’s pretty important to you, looking back to what seems like minutia or sort of the run-of-the-mill type stuff, although one call does stand out. There was a guy who had a very strange manner of speaking, sort of like Buffalo Bill from The Silence of the Lambs. And he calls in and his question was, he wanted to know how to meet girls. He said ‘I’m having trouble meeting girls. I’d like to know how.’ And I was, like ‘Alright. Well, what seems to be the problem.’ And he goes ‘Well, you know, I just have a hard time and they – you know, inevitably my past comes up and, you know, I just got out of jail.’ And I’m like ‘Wow!’ and I was, like, ‘How old are you?’ And he’s like, ‘I’m 19’ or whatever he was – or you know, 20. And he goes ‘I went to jail for two years.’ And I’m like ‘Two years?!? You went to jail at 18 years old for two years? What did you do?’ And he’s like, ‘Oh, I stole the head off of a corpse out of a mausoleum.’ And I’m like (laughs), ‘What?’ I was just so amused by that fact that, number one, he had done this, number two, that he was telling me so flippantly, and number three, the fact that his initial question was not, had nothing to do with head-ripping off corpses. It was the fact that he was having trouble meeting girls (laughs). It was just such a, just a simple, direct – like ‘this is the problem, I need a solution’. And it’s funny. It sort of gives you an insight into how guys ultimately think. I mean, you can do all the head-ripping that you want in your life but, ultimately, it’s all about meeting girls (laughs).

Now, did he get through? Did you put him though?

Oh, yeah! We put him through. I actually – I don’t remember how long I had been a call screener. I feel like I had been doing it for a little while so I sort of had an idea of – Adam and Drew liked to take certain kinds of calls and didn’t like to do certain other types of calls. So I think on the screen I put something like – I forgot just what but put simply ‘having trouble meeting girls’ and then in parentheses something like ‘please take this call. It, you know, it may seem boring but trust me, it’s going to be hilarious.’ (Laughs) and so they trusted me and it ended up being a fairly memorable call.

Just out of curiosity, how did you wean out the people that were just pranksters?

I had a pretty good radar for that kind of stuff. I don’t know why. I think – I was a creative writing major in college and I just feel like I can, I sort of know when someone is telling fiction or telling fact. There are practical tricks for it. Like if someone – you know, you can just press someone on the details of a story like ‘Oh really? Well, like what, you know, what do you, what wasn’t right about that day?’ You know, there’s nothing – well, not quite like that but if someone claims to be an age that they’re not you can ask them what year they were born inand a lot of times people will think ahead and, you know, map out the year. And you go “OK. What year did you graduate from high school?’ and that one usually trips people up because usually that should match up pretty easily and you usually don’t forget what year you graduated high school but you’d be surprised how many people get that one wrong.

You’re a part of the Adam Carolla Show and it’s currently the number one podcast. It’s also in the Guinness Book of World Records for the most downloads. What did you think about the idea of this show going to the podcast format?

It feels like a very natural, very logical sort of step, I think. Adam would probably never admit this. It would be bad for his agent. I think Adam would do this for free. I think Adam would love just to have a microphone and people listening ‘cause he’s full of ideas and has a passion just for, just the medium and the spoken word. And, I mean, I know he’s a fan of talk radio and listens to a lot of it, and listened to a lot of it when he was doing construction back in the day. And I think it was a pretty natural sort of evolution, the fact that his friend, Donny, was there with the technical knowledge to help him set this whole thing up and show him that no, this really is kind of easy. Like, you can do it, and there’s an audience for you. And I think it was a very natural thing and it didn’t surprise me at all. I was really, you know, pleased and thankful that not only, for my first year, whenever Adam asked me and Theresa Strasser, who was the former co-host of the radio show, to keep coming back and do these regular weekly sort of appearances. And then after about a year he asked us to come back and be part of the regular daily show which is hugely flattering – really rewarding for me, you know, both career-wise because I feel like it’s something that I do really, really well but also, I think from a sort of a health perspective. You know, I was going through some serious health problems there for a while and then it sort of coincided, my recovery coincided me being asked to come back and be apart of the radio show which didn’t seem like a possibility at the time. So it was a nice, it was a nice synergy and a nice sort of milestone for me to achieve.

Well, tell the listeners out there about your role in the Adam Carolla Show.

Adam, obviously, is the host and it’s the Adam Carolla Show. I am his sidekick. The main job is to play sound effects on the show but, I mean, that’s sort of my ostensible sort of job is the sounds effects. You know, sort of like Fred Norris on the Howard Stern Show, if you’re familiar with that. So I do that but I also comment, uh, you know, uh, jump in, discuss, comment. Just sort of a sidekick at large, I guess. The sound effects are the staple in what I do and I think what I’m known for. Hopefully, you know, I sort of elevate those from typical – I almost think of it like sort of an ironic commentary on the show, sort of like a Greek chorus in the background. I don’t think of it as sound effects sort of, um, enhancing the show, you know?So if Adam is talking about going to the bathroom, I don’t play a toilet flushing sound, you know? It’s more of a – I’ll play something sarcastic that’s like ‘Alright, well let’s move on.’ And, you know, ‘Keep it clean.’ And it’s sort of an ironic commentary. The voice of the listener, I guess is the way to sort of put it.

The thing about the show is it’s the number one podcast. It’s in the Guinness Book of World Records. Do you believe that the Ace Broadcasting Network is going to continue to dominate? What do you think will happen?

I don’t know if any one network will dominate. I don’t know if we’re dominating, per se. I mean, we’re doing very, very well but, you know, it’s, it’s so funny. There’s a sense of like and I know – I understand what you’re saying. I think I know why you picked that word. As you say, we’re doing very well but as far as the idea of dominating, you know, quote-unquote, sort of evokes sort of a, an idea of competition and I think that’s the best thing about podcasting is that there isn’t really the same competition that there is in radio, real radio. For example, you know, I think to his credit Howard Stern made his living, if you want to put it that way off of, you know, competition. You know, he would pick out the DJ he, uh, wanted to go to war with or whatever and would proceed to go to war with the DJ and made a thing out of it. and it was a great gimmick for him and it worked extremely well. But the thing in podcasting is we’re not competing against somebody in a time slot. I mean, you can listen – if you’re a podcast fan, it behooves us to promote other podcasts and get you more involved with the medium, you know? I mean, it actually benefits us. If you want to look to NPR or Marc Maron or Chris Hardwick or any number of podcasts. I mean, the more the merrier, you know? It’s a big thing where it’s a community and we would benefit from you listening to as many podcasts as you want to, you know? We’re not competing for a time slot. If it’s 8AM you could listen to any number of podcasts. It’s just like every day at 8 PM. I don’t know about domination, per se. I like to think that we’ll continue to do well and I like – I would really like to see the whole medium do really well. I sort of gauge the medium’s success, podcasting success, on when I talk to my, uh, parents’ friends and they’re like ‘Oh, what are you doing nowadays, Bryan?’ And I’m like ‘I work for a podcast.’ ‘What’s that?’ I’m like ‘It’s internet radio.’ And ‘How do I listen?’ And it’s like “Well, anyone can listen and it’s free.’ But when my parents’ friends know what a podcast is and know how to listen to one, I think we’ll have taken many steps in the right direction.

Very interesting. I wanted to get your opinion on a few different things that have been discussed and I’ve seen on the internet it’s actually created a bit of a buzz. There’s been discussion about the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ on Adam Carolla’s show. What do you think about ‘Occupy Wall Street’ or ‘Occupy’ anywhere?

 I half-promise the next 30 seconds will be extraordinarily boring because I don’t have a very strongopinion on it. I don’t follow it too much. I know almost everything I know from Alison in the news – Alison, who is the news girl on our show – uh, so I don’t follow it too closely. I almost think of it as ‘I don’t know’ but my, my outside opinion is almost like it’s sort of misdirected. Um … I just wish I knew what they were protesting against or if it’s even a protest or if it’s just a movement or a demonstration. I don’t know. The fact that it’s so hard to get a grip on makes – I think it sort of dilutes their message a little bit if there is, if there even is a message. I don’t know so, uh, sorry to offer you a very boring answer but I just don’t know.

Another thing he’s kind of talked about, and there’s been some banter back and forth with him and Alison, is self-entitlement. Do you think that young people today are growing up ‘entitled’ or maybe a bit too soft?

Interesting. The self-entitlement thing, I mean it’s, it’s a double-edged sword. I know Adam was talking about almost like a ‘paying your dues’ kind of thing. Like, ‘too much too fast’. You know, kids these days, if you want to, you know, put it that way, kids these days have access to too much and can do too much and it’s so easy for them. And you know, about paying their dues or having to go to through the same barriers, I guess, that previous generations had to go through. Like, but then, at the same time that’s a good thing because, you know, a teenager can host a podcast if he wanted to which, by the way, if someone is good at it why shouldn’t they host a podcast? You know what I mean? Like, as opposed to if you wanted to be, you know, a broadcaster in the old days you had to be a phone screener for a while, then you had to, you know, be an associate producer or a board op or whatever, you know. You had to work your way up. It took years and years. And now, as Adam likes to say, you know, he quotes whatever it is, Nike or Reebok or whatever, you know, ‘It’s your world.’ Well, I mean it kind of is and, uh, the more barriers, I guess, we can break down between the desire to do something and actually being able to do something – I don’t know. I see both sides. I see how it can be a negative because I am a believer in sort of paying your dues and doing things the hard way. You know, having to go through things and trials and tribulations in order to get what you want. It makes you appreciate it more. But at the same time, I mean, there’s something to be said for diving in and just doing it, you know? Let’s use the podcast as an example. If you’re a teenager and you love talk radio and you want to host your own sports talk show, uh, on the internet, then why not? Dive in and do it and make your mistakes and you’ll probably be a lot father along than, uh, any of us were at your age.

Have you read the book that Adam Carolla wrote, In Fifty Years We’ll All Be Chicks?

Oh yeah. I read the hard-cover edition. It took me, it took me several trips to the bathroom but, uh, over the course of , uh, eight months I finished it.

Do you think that men are losing their masculinity?

I don’t know. I guess it’s along the same lines of what I was just saying, about self-entitlement and all that stuff and I do see, I see both sides of it. I appreciate, you know, the fact that guys can do more now than just typical guy things. You know, like that there are guy chefs – not that there weren’t before but they’re sort of a little bit more celebrated now. Guys are a little more evolved, I guess you would want to say, you know, beyond just to be able to know, you know, typical guy things of the old days. But at the same time, there’s also Adam’s point which is extraordinarily valid, which is guys don’t know nearly the stuff that they used to know, you know what I mean? Like there was a sense of pride like, well ‘I know how to fix my engine.’ You know? Well, I’m as guilty as anyone. I don’t know how to fix an engine. I know a few things about cars but I certainly wouldn’t be able to tinker on one. I guess maybe men are losing a touch of their masculinity but if it’s at the expense of, or at the benefit of, being a little more evolved then it’s a, it’s a natural evolution and I don’t have a problem with that.

Adam Carolla is somebody who is very, very opinionated. What do you most disagree with Adam Carolla about?

Oh, wow. (Laughs) Well, first of all, the Adam Carolla I know is not an opinionated so I don’t know where you got that from. But I make it an issue on the show to try and disagree with him, whenever I have a legitimate disagreement, on the air. And the reason is there’s not a lot of disagreeing that goes on, you know, with Adam on the show. If you, I mean, I think if you took out parts of our disagreeing I don’t think you’d find very much, uh, rub at all. You know what I’m saying? And I think that’s – there’s an extreme that bad, like in morning radio where a guy – the old, the old rule of radio was the two hosts had to disagree. You couldn’t agree because otherwise you wouldn’t have any concept and there wouldn’t be any debate. So the one guy was like ‘I think the color red is terrible!’ And the other guy was ‘I think the color red is fantastic! Let’s take your calls right now. 877-COLOR RED.’ And it’s like, alright, well, listen. These manufactured disagreements, they’re not really working. But the flip side is that agreeing all the time doesn’t work either. So I think there’s a healthy balance. I think I don’t want to get pigeon-holed or cast as the guy who just disagrees with Adam out of principle but whenever there’s an opportunity like, ‘Oh no. I think you’re wrong about that.’ I’ll definitely speak up because it’s important for the show and it’s important for the listener. I mean, as you can like anybody, any host or personality, you don’t just want to hear them rant or just talk about things that they love or talk about things that they hate. You know, you want to hear some debate or some exchange of ideas or some alternative take on something. Whether you agree with the take or not, it brings out, maybe, more of what you like in the host. So at any rate, to answer your question, there’s a part in Adam’s book that extends from the radio show that we did back in 2000- I don’t know, 7 or something, but I think – Adam put it in his book, which is extraordinarily devious, but we disagreed. First of all I was 100% right and still am, but Adam thinks that Apple, the company that makes the iPhone, intentionally made the iPhone slick and slippery so that people would drop more iPhones and therefore have to buy more iPhones. And not only is that insane, it’s ridiculous. It’s a conspiracy theory. And I floated this theory to, uh, several, several people – tech experts who just had – I just was talking to Tim Carrera from T-4 who, once I told him the theory, the look on his face it was dumbfounded, it was disbelieving, and it was kind of amused. So as I say to Adam, like, ‘Listen Adam, you can have this theory all you want. You can have your crazy crackpot theories about the iPhone but please don’t tell anyone. Please don’t make this public knowledge because people will start to think that you really believe this crap!’ (Laughs)

Our special guest is Bryan Bishop. What are you most optimistic about?

You know, I’m optimistic about my own health and my own future. And, you know, I got married two years ago and I don’t know if your listeners know but I was diagnosed with brain cancer, uh, just a few months before my wedding. Things did not look good there for a while and things were, uh, pretty bleak but I’ve made, uh, quite a comeback and I’m doing better. I’m improving and you know, maybe it sounds selfish but I am most optimistic for sort of my own future, my own recovery and my wife and I, uh, living a long and happy life together.

What is the best thing about being Bryan Bishop?

Getting to talk to people like you, Paul!

(Laughs) Well, that’s awfully kind of you.

Yeah, well you know it’s, I think, the best – at least as it pertains to the Adam Carolla Show and what I do, uh, for a living, you know, I, you know, when I went to high school or college or whatever it was, you know, sort of evaluating my own talents and skills, you know, I looked around and I saw people who were really, really good at be it math or computers and I’m like ‘Well, these guys got it made.’ I mean, at least in terms of their career’s prospects. They’re going to, you know, become an engineer or a computer programmer or an accountant or whatever and they’re going to, you know, have it pretty – they’re going to be pretty well suited to their skills. And I took a look, I took a look at my skills and the things that I enjoyed most were hopping off to the teacher, making the classroom laugh – basically, sort of goofing off and I didn’t see a huge market for that at the time. And, uh, luckily, I get to sort of do that, at least professionally, you know. My job is to sort of be the kid in the back of the classroom who is, uh, mocking the teacher, you know, to an extent. You know, I’m not like, barking out sound effects every time Adam says something. But you know I, uh, sort of my job is to pick my spots and, you know, a well-timed sound effect or drop can really, uh, you know, be, be the equivalent to, you know, sort of making the classroom laugh. When I was a little kid my bedroom, mybedroom wall where, you know, at the head of my bed was – it shared a common wall with my parents’ shower. So my dad would get up for work really early in the morning because he worked in the food industry. He would get up like, I don’t know, around 5, 4:30 or 5 in the morning. He would take a shower every morning. It would be just enough to sort of wake me up, never to like, you know, like jolt me awake. Like, I always heard the sound of the rushing water in the pipes inside the wall. It was right there by my head. And it sort of like just woke me up. Like, uh, you know, my dad’s there taking a shower and I would fall back to sleep. It was extraordinarily soothing. I don’t have a drop for that. I don’t have a sound effect for that. I don’t know if I could possibly replicate the sound of, you know, running water in pipes inside of a wall. But I will say now, in as much as sound can be tied to memory, and good memories and all that stuff, it’s a very pleasing sound.

Interesting. Well, my last question. For anybody who hears this interview, wherever they are, it’s just open-ended – what would you like to say to all of the people who listen?

Well, if they’re listening, they’re either, uh, interested in you or me or podcasting in general. And I would say thanks for their support and spread the word. And, hopefully, we’ll be around for a long, long time doing exactly what we’re doing, and it will just keep getting better and better and we’ll have more interesting things to offer you and to say to you. And, yeah, I guess just thanks. I mean, especially in the podcast world, you know we’re nothing without our fans and we’re nothing without the people that support us. So, inasmuch as we’re extremely grateful for that, I’ll say thanks.

Well, thank you very much for your time and I appreciate all this.

My pleasure, Paul.


Adam Carolla: Broadcast Personality, Comedian, Actor

ADAM CAROLLA had just written his book In 50 Years We’ll All Be Chicks when we did this interview.  We were invited to see him perform his comedy at the Tabernacle in Atlanta and unfortunately somebody forgot to put us on the list.
The door guy told us to take a hike.

We hope we get to see him soon, but in the meantime we hope you enjoy his unique perspective in this interview.

What was the most surprising thing in Adam Carolla’s interview?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it’s our pleasure to welcome our special guest, Adam Carolla.  He’s going to be appearing at the Tabernacle here in Atlanta on September 30th.  First of all, thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks for having me, Paul. 

You left radio for the podcast format.  What do you like about podcasting and where do you think it’s going?
The thing that’s really nice about podcasting is everyone always says, “Wow, you get to say whatever you want.”  You don’t get to say whatever you want because if you do say whatever you want, and people are still listening and they’re still plenty of groups out there that will protest and try to getyour sponsors to leave you and that kind of stuff.  You can use whatever language want but you can’t say whatever you want.  So there’s a little misnomer there.  I never found radio confining.  The thing I do like about the podcast is the flexibility in the schedule.  For instance, I do my podcast every night at 8pm, and that’s just the way we do it but tonight, my dad is celebrating his eightieth birthday and so we’re going to do it earlier so I can go to my dad’s eightieth birthday tonight, which is something, you know, in radio, you don’t get to do.  The show’s when it is and it’s that time every day and, you know, if your dad’s eightieth birthday happens to fall on the night when you’ve got to do a show, “Too bad Pops,” you know. 

Where do you think this is all going?  Do you think it’s the new frontier?
Oh yeah…I didn’t answer the second part of your question.  I don’t know.  I think it’s going about the same place music did eight years ago, which is…I don’t think there’s ever going to be such a thing as a multi-platinum record that sells anymore or disc.  It’ll be downloaded and people will find it on their computer and some people will find it on Amazon but they’ll find it.  It’s the same way…it’s the same thing that’s sort of happening with books.  It’s the same thing that’s happening with TV.  You know, back in the day, TV shows would get forty million people watching.  Now, if you can get five million people watching, you’re doing pretty damn good and books would sell a million copies and now if you can sell a hundred thousand copies, you’re doing pretty good.  The pie is getting sliced up into thinner and thinner pieces.  So there’s so many people out there and there’s so much product that there’s so much to go around that it’s being consumed in smaller little bit-sized pieces.  So those days of selling millions of copies of this or having a fifteen share of television, for the most part, are gone.  You’re going to take your little core audience of a couple hundred thousand people and just go off and make money with them. 

Well, a second ago you mentioned your father.  The name of your podcast network is the ACE Podcasting Network…Ace Broadcasting Network…a lot of really great shows and one of them is ‘Life Lessons with Jim Carolla.’  I really enjoy listening to that one.  This might be a tough question, but what is the greatest life lesson your father has taught you?
You know it’s funny that that’s the name of the show, or ironic.  My dad never…he wasn’t the type to like ever sit me down and go, “Listen, there’s two kinds of ladies out there son.”  You know, it was never like a good Johnny Cash song.  We never talked that much.  He never told me anything.  He rarely had any advice for me like not in a bad way…just like, “Eh, go out and live your life,” like.  But he always kind of said, and it wasn’t a great feeling, but he always sort of said, “Try to figure out what your part in this scenario is and see if you can fix it.”  In other words, every time I’d get into an argument with somebody or every time something goes wrong or you get fired from a job or you get cut from a team or you get divorced or your girlfriend dumps you or your boyfriend dumps you…whatever the situation is, instead of doing all the externalizing, which everyone just does like, “Screw that guy!  He’s an idiot!”   You know, go, “Why’d you get fired from your boss?”  “Why’d you get fired from your job?”  “My boss is an a-hole!”  Like, alright…that doesn’t really help you fix whatever reason you got fired for, unless in fact, your boss is, in fact, an a-hole and just fired you just because he’s an a-hole. But usually your boss fires you for something you did, even if he is an a-hole.  And I love those people who do the thing where they go, “Hey man, I did the work of three people.  He was just jealous so he fired me.”  Like, don’t externalize it.  Look in, meaning if you go to a restaurant and you go to the restaurant on a Friday night at seven o’clock and the restaurant is closed, you could be outraged and go, “This is nonsense!  What kind of restaurants close on a Friday night at seven o’clock.”  But you know what my dad would say?  “You should’ve called first.”  And I’d go, “What are you talking about?  It’s Friday night at seven o’clock.” He’d go, “Still, if you’d called, you would’ve found out they were closed.”  All I’m saying is, take a look inside and figure out what you could’ve done and don’t beat yourself up about it but if you want to avoid a trip to a restaurant that’s closed, call first. 

Very sound advice.  I was reading your new book, and to all the listeners out there, it’s entitled ‘In Fifty Years We’ll All Be Chicks.’  There’s a tremendous emphasis on embracing what it is to be a woman.  You see that every day.  But you don’t really hear anything about embracing manhood.
It’s so funny when you hear women up on the podium, whether it’s Nancy Pelosi or Cher…whoever…and they’re going like, “We are strong.  We are independent.  We make the world go round.  We need to set aside a month to celebrate us.”  I mean, just imagine a dude doing that.  By the way, when you make the proclamations and announce why you’re so strong and have days set aside for you and your strength and your independence and all that, it usually means things aren’t going that well so you should probably knock it off (laughs).  Rich white guys rarely have that meeting…”Hey!  We need a day for us!”  Trump, take the podium…talk about how, uh, how smart we are how strong we are and how proud we are and what great fathers we are.  Let’s do that.  Let’s take a day to celebrate us.  Nah…we’re kind of busy making money and ruling everything.  So I would say, no matter what group you’re in, don’t have those press conferences or those marches or whatever it is where you make the proclamation of how much the world needs you.  It’s usually not a good sign. 

You record your podcast show out there in the seat of the entertainment world, California.  Who have you met in Los Angeles that has the most integrity?
Oooh…wow…let’s see…I would say, if you’re going to use the word ‘integrity, it might be my buddy, Jimmy Kimmel.  I mean, Jimmy is one of these guys, in a town where everyone gets paid for doing nothing, like you know when you watch these shows and there’s nine producers?  Eight of them do nothing.  They literally just get paid.  They don’t show up on the set.  They’re called “non-writing producers.”  They do not much…we live in a town where people frequently get paid for nothing. An old manager would get paid for doing nothing and they have no problem with it.  They’re entitled to it.  Jimmy is one of the only dudes I know in this town who says, “I don’t want to get paid if I’m not doing something.  So if I’m not actively creating on this show, then save your paycheck.”  Other than Jimmy, there’s a hand…you know the thing about this town is there’s a bunch of really good, solid dudes and then a bunch of colossal douche bags and everyone’s focus is on the colossal, do nothing producers or chicks running the studios….there’s tons of just hacks and phonies and imposters and just idiots that I’ve worked with….most…every producer that I’ve worked with has been a colossal douche bag.  But they get the reputation and they sort of ruin it for the rest of the town.  And the reality is, there’s whole bunch of really cool people and it’s sort of like rich guys…rich guys have this reputation for being evil rich guys.  Well, most of the rich guys I know are like…they’re really nice and they’re super hard-working and their and they’re generous.

Well on that note, you mentioned producers.  Are there any other people you’ve met in the industry, or maybe a specific person, who you just do not like?
Yeah…(laughs)…almost everyone.  The industry attracts narcissists with personality disorders.  So, I mean, you have to be…there’s usually something wrong with you and like I said, look, if you’re a writer or you’re a comedian or you’re a storyteller or actor or greater, you probably have a personality disorder but at least you do something.  I mean, at least you go, “Hey!  I’m funny.  I’m going to write some jokes.”  It’s the producers who don’t contribute anything…I mean, like when we did ‘The Man’ show all those years, this producer didn’t do anything.  Here’s all you people need to know about producers:  for the first four seasons of ‘The Man Show,’ we produced the show.  Stone Stanley, who claimed to produce the show, they weren’t allowed on the set.  They were off somewhere else.  They were literally not allowed there.  Jimmy didn’t like them and they just weren’t there.  So, for the first four seasons, that was ‘The Man Show’ that was done the way we would’ve done it.  The fifth season, when we left, then the producers got to produce and that’s what you got.  You got the fifth season on ‘The Man Show’ with Doug Stanhope  and Joe Rogan  and that’s what the show would’ve looked like if the folks who, in quotes, “producing it” were producing it the first four seasons.  Oh, they got paid.  They got paid the first four seasons and they got paid the last one too but that’s what producers do. 

One of the other people on your network is Larry Miller.  What do you think about Larry Miller?
I should have brought him up when you were asking me about, uh, integrity.  I love Larry Miller.  He is the nicest guy in the world.  He’s just like old school, just solid dude, you know…a good husband, a good dad, and funny, sincere, always in a good mood…one of these guys that calls you “pal,” like every time you see him, “How are you, pal?  How you doing?  Good to see ya.  Good…” always seems happy to see you there.  He’s always happy to be where he is.  Like, just the nicest guy you’re ever going to want to meet.

Who have you had on the ‘Adam Carolla Show’ that you were proudest to welcome?
I was excited to get to sit down with Albert Brooks for a good eighty minutes the other week and interview him because I’ve always been a fan of Albert Brooks and I’ve never seen any just long-form, sit-down interview with him.  I was excited to have Francis Ford Coppola.  I was excited to have Ken Burns, the documentarian on.  I found that guy really compelling.  One of the guys I was most excited about was the actor, Christoph Waltz because I’d just seen ‘Inglorious Basterds’ and I was literally, I felt like a sneak preview of ‘In Glorious Bastards’ like a week before it came out and I saw Christoph Waltz and I was blown away and I was like, “This guy’s going to win the Oscar for sure.  He’s gotta win the Oscar.”  I mean, doing it…he’s acting in three different languages.  He came in and sat down with me, you know, like a few days after I saw the preview for the movie and I was like, “Buddy, you’re getting an Oscar this year,” and no one knew the guy’s name at the time and, I don’t know, four months later he was up there, claiming his Oscar. 

Anyone that has a talk show, there’s always a guest that deludes you…that drives you crazy.  So, who is that guest been for you?
Who I wanted to get on and haven’t gotten on?
There’s always that, “Oh, sure it’d be great to get Justin Timberlake on the show,” but I’ve never tried to get Justin Timberlake on the show so I wouldn’t say he’s been “eluding” me.  And, you know, it’s like I’d love to get Tom Hanks on the show but I never tried to get Tom Hanks on the show so I don’t feel like that.  I don’t really…I…I never really think of it that way.  There’s people that I’m fans of and people I go, “Man, that guy’s good,” and it would be great to sit down with Dwayne Johnson but on the other hand, I never went after Dwayne Johnson.  I don’t know if a chick can ignore you until you send over a drink and I never sent over a drink for anybody so I sort of go in every night and go, “Whose on tonight,” and someone goes, “It’s this guy,” and sometimes I go, “Whose that,” and they go, “It’s an author,” and I go, “I never heard of that guy,” and half the time, “that guy” turns out to be way more interesting than the guy you’ve heard of and then other nights, it’s guys you’ve heard of.  But, I never really plan it out.

You’re appearing at the Tabernacle in Atlanta and that’s going to be on September 30th, as a comedian on the road and have you had any strange encounters with fans that you can tell us about?
(Laughs)  You know what?  For the most part, they just show up and they’re nice and sometimes they’ll make me a t shirt or get me some toys for my kids or something…or I’ll be complaining about Southwest taking nuts off the airplane ‘cause somebody had a peanut allergy and called in, and they’ll give me a bunch of Southwest peanuts or something but for the most part, every once in a while you get that sort of drunken fan and they do this one, which is funny…like you’re leaving the show and you’re walking out in the parking lot and you’re getting into the car and the guy’s like, “Hey!  Hey Adam!  Hey Man Show!  We just saw the show.  Can we get a picture?”

And you’re like, “Yeah, yeah sure…we’ll get a picture,” and you get a picture.

 And then his buddy will go, “Oh no…get the camera and let me get in here too,” and then they switch cameras.

And the third buddy goes, “Hey, let me get a picture too.” 

And you go, “Alright.” 

Then they go, “Let’s get a picture of all three of us.”

“Alright…let’s get a picture of all three of us.”

“Hey man, can you sign my ‘Hammer’ jacket?”  (Independent movie I did)

“Sign my book…sign my book…”  “Alright, I’ll sign my book…” and I’ll sign the thing.

“Let’s one more picture.”

“Alright.”  So you get the one more picture and then you go, “Alright pal, thanks.  I’m going to head back to the hotel.”

“Oh…so that’s it?  That’s all?”  (laughs)  “You just going to leave us hanging?  Is that how you roll?”

You’re like, “Wait, wait, wait….what’d I do?”

“So you’re just heading out?  Just checking out now?  That’s how you roll?”

I’m like, “What do you want?  Some sex behind the dumpster?  What are you looking for here?”

You know…
It’s weird…you sign the guy’s book, you take nine pictures with him and you go, “Alright.  Thanks for coming to the show pals.  I’m going to get in the Towncar,” and they say

“Whoa…so that’s it, huh?”

Yeah, you

Well, my last question:  the great thing about podcasting and internet radio, there’s no geographic limitations anymore.

So for anyone who hears this interview in Atlanta and beyond, what do you want to say in closing?  Open-ended…

Oh geez…now, in what language?  If you enjoy good conversation and you enjoy some compelling talk and some free talk and some open talk, then, uh, you can check out the podcast, pick it up.  People are a little intimidated like, “Wow, I don’t know how to work a computer.”  You just go to iTunes and hit podcasts and you’ll see a picture of me and if you’ll click on it, it’s free and nothing to it.  Believe me I don’t know what the hell I’m doing around a computer and even I can figure it out.  So, check it out.  And you might want to grab my book, too.  I’m pretty proud of that.  In Fifty Years We’ll All Be Chicks.  I wouldn’t say it if it wasn’t true.  So, uh, and other than that…enjoy your life.  And dance with your kids, that’s what I wanted to say.  Once a week at least, have a little dance party with your kids.  Because when daddy’s depressed it always bums the kids out.  So have a little dance party with your kids.

Our special guest has been Adam Carolla.  Thanks so much for doing this interview.  I really appreciate it.
My pleasure.